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Theo Wanne Battle Royal Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Showdown: Round One-Ballad

November 30, 2022 by Steve 35 Comments

Today, I am posting a battle royal, fight to the death, comparison between six Theo Wanne tenor saxophone mouthpieces that I have already reviewed here at Neffmusic.  Here are the six Theo Wanne mouthpieces doing battle in round one today with links to their reviews:

Theo Wanne Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Lineup (From Left to Right-Ambika 3, Lakshmi, Gaia 3, Gaia 4, Durga 5, Shiva 3)

  1. Ambika 3 (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece
  2. Lakshmi (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece
  3. Gaia 3 (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece
  4. Gaia 4 (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece
  5. Durga 5 (8 tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece
  6. Shiva 3 (8 tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece

For this Battle Royal-Round One, we are starting with 8 bars from the ballad entitled “My One and Only Love”.  Each tenor sax mouthpiece gets the opportunity to show off while playing the A section of this popular jazz ballad.  We have asked the mouthpieces to retrain from their creative impulses and to play similar lines and ideas for this round so that they could be judged purely by their sound, tonal shade (brightness and darkness), tonal texture, power, articulation, intonation and all-round general vibe……..

Theo Wanne Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Lineup (From Left to Right-Ambika 3, Lakshmi, Gaia 3, Gaia 4, Durga 5, Shiva 3)

All six Theo Wanne tenor sax mouthpieces entered the ring using their corresponding Liberty ligatures.  They were all recorded at the same distance from the mic with the same microphone and settings.

The Ambika 3, Lakshmi and Gaia 4 tenor sax mouthpieces all used the same Roberto’s Winds 3 soft tenor saxophone reed.  Interestingly enough, that same reed would not work on the Gaia 3 tenor saxophone mouthpiece and a new Roberto’s Winds 3 soft reed had to be used on the Gaia 3 tenor sax mouthpiece.

The Durga 5 and Shiva 3 tenor sax mouthpieces played best with a Roberto’s Winds 2 1/2 hard tenor saxophone reed as the 3 soft reed felt too hard on the 8 tip opening of these two mouthpieces.

I rarely do head to head comparisons between saxophone mouthpieces so this Battle Royal-Round One between the Theo Wanne contenders was quite interesting.  As a disclaimer, I will state that I spent very little time getting used to each mouthpiece before recording.  I just put on a reed, blew on it to see if it felt good, and then recorded.

Theo Wanne Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Lineup (From Left to Right-Ambika 3, Lakshmi, Gaia 3, Gaia 4, Durga 5, Shiva 3)

If you like the sound and look of any of these beautiful tenor saxophone mouthpieces by Theo Wanne, you can find them at Theo Wanne’s website (save 15% by using this link).   I have agreed to be an affiliate for Theo Wanne so if you purchase a Theo Wanne tenor saxophone mouthpiece from a link (save 15% by using this link) here in the review, I will receive a small commission on the sale at no extra cost to you. (This helps to support my site and keep the saxophone related reviews, articles and transcriptions coming to you…..).

Here are some of my subjective observations from playing these six great Theo Wanne tenor saxophone mouthpieces back to back:

  1. Ambika 3 (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece– This was definitely the darkest tenor mouthpiece of the six mouthpieces. The tone is rich and thick. It didn’t seem as loud to me but that is probably because there is less brightness in the tone.  The upper range notes didn’t get a lot brighter in tone as they did on some of the other mouthpieces.  The intonation was really locked in for me on this one.  The tone had a nice dark focused core to it.
  2. Lakshmi (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece-The Lakshmi was brighter than the Ambika 3 but sounded more complex and rich to my ears.  Like there was more complexity to the tone.  The tone seemed like it had more diffused edges to it which makes it sound more spread and buttery sounding than the other mouthpieces.
  3. Gaia 3 (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece-The Gaia 3 sounds immediate fatter to me than the Lakshmi but there is a bit of edge in the tone I wasn’t a fan of.  The runs seemed a bit more uneven to me than the other mouthpieces.
  4. Gaia 4 (7* tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece-The Gaia 4 has the fatness of the Gaia 3 but some of the richness and complexity of the Lakshmi.  It also loses that edge in the tone I didn’t like on the Gaia 3 track.  The fast runs seemed more even and smoother than on the Gaia 3.  It seems to have more solid stable core to the sound where as the Gaia 3 has a sound that felt like it might break at times.  Perhaps not as stable of a tone when compared to the Gaia 4.  The tone seemed more locked in as far as intonation and the center of the tone to me.
  5. Durga 5 (8 tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece-The Durga is brighter than the first four mouthpieces and you can immediately notice a more in your face presence to the tone,  as if I was standing closer to the mic, although I wasn’t.  It does have some more edge to the tone especially in the upper register.  The palm keys seemed brighter and bit thinner than I liked.  I loved the presence of this mouthpiece though.
  6. Shiva 3 (8 tip opening) tenor saxophone mouthpiece– The Shiva 3 is interesting because I think I subconsciously sub-toned more on it than the other mouthpieces to keep the power, brightness and edge in control. You can hear at the :14 mark where I put a little more air through the horn and the note gets much louder, brighter and edgier immediately.  I found the Shiva to be too bright and edgy for my tastes on this ballad.

This is a show down, so for me, if I had to rate these in order of preference for this ballad:

  1. Gaia 4
  2. Lakshmi
  3. Ambika 3
  4. Durga 5
  5. Gaia 3
  6. Shiva

The Gaia 4 and Lakshmi are really a toss up.  They both sounded great but had different tones.  The Gaia 4 had a thicker core and heartiness to the tone and the Lakshmi having a more smooth and pretty tone.  The Ambika was beautiful also but darker than I usually like. The Durga 5 sounded great but was brighter than I like.  I did love the presence of tone with the Durga 5 and it reminded me a bit of Michael Brecker’s “in-your-face” bright tone when he played “My One and Only Love”. The Gaia 3 and Shiva just had more brightness and edge than I like.  Edge is cool when I can turn it on and off but I am not a fan of edge popping up in the tone when I didn’t call for it.  I do not like that at all.

I guess I could also see the Gaia 4 and Lakshmi tied for first place and the Ambika 3 and Durga 5 tied for second place depending if I wanted to go brighter or darker with my tone.

So, those are my personal impressions.  Let me know what you think in the comments below whether you agree or disagree with my opinions.- Steve

Please let me know what you think in the comments below.  Which one is the winner of this round in your opinion? Do you hear a difference?   I would love to hear what you think in the comments below.  Thanks,   Steve

My One and Only Love (A Section)

Theo Wanne Ambika 3 Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

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Theo Wanne Ambika 3 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece – Roberto’s Winds-3 Soft-No Effects

Theo Wanne Lakshmi Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

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Theo Wanne Lakshmi 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece – Roberto’s Winds-3 Soft-No Effects

Theo Wanne Gaia 3 Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

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Theo Wanne Gaia 3 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece – Roberto’s Winds-3 Soft-No Effects

Theo Wanne Gaia 4 Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

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Theo Wanne Gaia 4 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece – Roberto’s Winds-3 Soft-No Effects

Theo Wanne Durga 5 Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

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Theo Wanne Durga 5  (8 tip) Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece – Roberto’s Winds-2 1/2 Hard-No Effects

Theo Wanne Shiva 3 Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

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Theo Wanne Shiva 3  (8 tip) Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece – Roberto’s Winds-2 1/2 Hard-No Effects 

Disclosure: I borrowed four of the sample mouthpieces played above in the hope that I would try them and perhaps review them on my blog. I already owned the Gaia 3 and the Lakshmi as these were given to me by Theo Wanne mouthpieces in the past. I will be sending the four mouthpieces back after this review but might be tempted to ask to keep one or more mouthpieces depending on how this battle plays out. We will see…….If you purchase a Theo Wanne mouthpiece through the link (save 15% by using this link) I provided in the review, I will receive a small commission that helps to support my work here at neffmusic.com. Regardless, I only review mouthpieces that I enjoy playing and believe will be good for other saxophone players to try also. Steve

Filed Under: Mouthpiece Reviews, Tenor Mouthpiece Reviews Tagged With: Ambika 3, comparison, Durga 5, Gaia 3, Gaia4, jazz sax, Lakshmi, metal, mouthpiece, review, Roberto's Winds saxophone reeds, Shiva 3, tenor saxophone, Theo Wanne

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  1. AvatarTravis Johnson says

    November 30, 2022 at 1:55 pm

    Just a casual listen, but the only one that jumps out as sounding better, and the only one that sounds substantially different, is the Gaia 3. I hear a fuller sound in the low register notes at the beginning of the sound clip. I think it would be fair to describe it as slightly brighter, slightly more contemporary. It seems like “bright” can be akin to an insult in the saxophone world—but that’s not the intention here. I just prefer it in this instance.

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      November 30, 2022 at 8:13 pm

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the sound clips.

      Reply
    • AvatarSvante Soderholm says

      February 23, 2023 at 6:32 pm

      Hello!
      I came up with a similar choice of mouthpieces.
      Maybe I would try a little harder reed to get some more core to the sound and less thin sound on the palm keys and altissimo register.
      Really great great review. Very interesting !
      Thank you!

      Reply
      • SteveSteve says

        February 24, 2023 at 2:31 pm

        Thanks for the feedback. I’ll see if I can make a harder reed work on the next round. Steve

        Reply
  2. AvatarMarc says

    November 30, 2022 at 3:27 pm

    Hi Steve, very cool test. In general I found the TW metal pieces to sound too thin in the upper register. For this ballad I prefer the GAIA 4.

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      November 30, 2022 at 8:15 pm

      The Gaia 4 was one of my favorites as well. I love the Lakshmi but there is something about the Gaia 4 and Durga 5 that just speaks to me………

      Reply
  3. AvatarGil says

    November 30, 2022 at 4:58 pm

    Exactly the same for me. I own a Gaia 2 and the problem is that upper register is way too thin and sharp. Apparently Gaia 4 now is softer there and lakshmi as well sounds darker than mine. Anyway good job Mr Wanne!

    Reply
  4. AvatarCan Turk says

    November 30, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    I really enjoyed the Lakshmi… Gaia 4 would be a close 2nd for me. Thanks for this Steve !!

    Reply
  5. AvatarJoe Provenza says

    November 30, 2022 at 9:51 pm

    Ironically, I was just listening to Coltrane’s rendition of this song this afternoon. I liked the Gaia 3 best. I thought the tone was fullest and most consistent. This is an interesting test because when I think of Theo Wanne mouthpieces, ballads don’t come to mind.

    Reply
  6. AvatarDave Jackson says

    November 30, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    The Shiva sounded the best to me, although everything you play sounds like you and so all the sound clips have a similarity, a “Neff-tone” to them. They’re all just slight variations on your core sound.
    Thanks for all your hard work, we appreciate it

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      December 2, 2022 at 12:56 pm

      Thanks, Dave! Your comment got me thinking about my “Neff-tone”. The truth is that that is what sounds good to me so when I try a mouthpiece that doesn’t get me any where near that tone, I either work with it until I get it close or I don’t review the mouthpiece because I feel it doesn’t work for me. It would be interesting for me to post more clips of mouthpieces where I don’t get my standard “Neff-tone” as you have labeled it……..now you have me thinking……..

      Reply
  7. AvatarRenee says

    December 1, 2022 at 4:24 am

    Hi Steve,

    For me they all sound great, i liked to sound of the Gaia 4 the most.
    Im a link/ ponzol player.

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      December 2, 2022 at 1:02 pm

      I think the Gaia 4 was the mouthpiece with the most rugged and tough sound. It sounds more thick and beefy in tone to me.

      Reply
  8. AvatarGiuseppe C. says

    December 1, 2022 at 5:47 am

    For what I perceive from computer, in order of preference:
    1) Lakshmi,
    2) Ambika, in an another ballpark, for fullness and darkness of sound, even if less powerful,
    3) Durga for brilliance and a certain fullness at the same time),
    4) Gaia 4 ,
    5) Gaia 3 , little difference with Gaia 4, difficult to say which is best
    6) Shiva.

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      December 2, 2022 at 1:00 pm

      Thanks, Giuseppe! It’s so interesting how everyone has different opinions about which mouthpiece is the “best” mouthpiece.

      Reply
  9. AvatarAlan says

    December 1, 2022 at 5:45 pm

    Ambika still had some edge but a darker spread sound, nice. Lakshmi and Gaia 3 we’re both the most focused and middle of the road in this bunch. Gaia 4 was nice with that more spread to the sound and the crispness. Durga was the surprise to me as I was all set for bright and it still had a bunch of bottom to the sound, very cool. Shiva was what I expected. Depends on the music, but for a ballad like this I would like the Ambika or the Gaia 4, I know…weird? And I would not turn down a Durga if someone wants to give me one either. I know that’s not happening. All this based upon my headphones, tablet, barometric pressure and solar flares too. Thanks Steve!

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      December 2, 2022 at 1:05 pm

      Thanks, Alan. I appreciate your thoughts and impressions of the sound clips. I was surprised by the Durga 5 as well. When I was playing it, I thought it was a bit too bright from behind the horn but the recording of it sounded really great to me.

      Reply
  10. AvatarDan OReilly says

    December 2, 2022 at 2:34 pm

    Hi Steve,
    “Neff-Tone”. Sounds like a new custom mouthpiece line. Ever think about designing your own?

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      December 2, 2022 at 4:38 pm

      Hahaha! Yes, I have thought about it. Neff-Tone is a little too close to Phil-Tone though……..

      Reply
  11. AvatarMartin Peter Long says

    December 2, 2022 at 4:18 pm

    They all sound the same to me . Maybe through better speakers I might have more of a chance in hearing a difference .

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      December 2, 2022 at 4:31 pm

      Better speakers definitely help. There is a world of difference between listening to these on my iPhone versus my laptop, versus my desktop with Klipsch speakers. They’re not even that great of speakers but I can hear so much more than with my phone or laptop. I’m saving up for much better speakers for Xmas………

      The other huge factor is our ears. So many working sax players have so much hearing loss in certain ranges of their hearing that I don’t know if they can hear the actual sound they are listening to. I’ve heard of guys getting hearing aids and then they realize that every mouthpiece they have is way brighter than they thought they were. This might be the case for me as well…..

      Reply
    • AvatarGiuseppe C. says

      December 3, 2022 at 7:05 am

      Hi Martin,
      you’re right: my computer’s audio broke and I had to put two external cassettes bought for six euros in a Chinese shop…
      When I listen to audio clips on other people’s devices the sound seems much richer!
      I apologize to Steve if my comments may appear, for this reason, imprecise!

      Reply
  12. AvatarBob says

    December 5, 2022 at 8:05 am

    They all sounded great, but I thought the Gaia 3 was perfect for this.

    Reply
  13. AvatarRob says

    December 8, 2022 at 10:46 am

    Many interesting comments and observations, especially about the ‘Neff’ tone. I’d guess that Mr Neff would go for different tones on different horns, though.
    I found the Gaia 4 to be very round at bottom, but not as clean at higher pitches compared to the Durga 5. I thought the Durga 5 was the most focused, bright, and clean, even if not the most suitable mpc for this tune. For this tune, I thought Gaia 3 best application overall, but if an edge is desired, then Durga 5—I mean who is the player playing to, an audience or one person selected in the audience? I thought the Lakshmi and Ambika showed little difference between each other, and less distinguishing, more ordinary, tonally compared to the other three.

    Reply
  14. AvatarCan Turk says

    January 16, 2023 at 11:21 pm

    Looking forward to your thoughts and Part 2, Steve !!

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      January 17, 2023 at 11:39 am

      Thanks for the reminder! I totally forgot to post my thoughts as I said I would. I have them all written out. I’ll see about posting those and getting busy with Round 2. Any requests for a Round 2 topic? Polka?

      Reply
      • AvatarCan Turk says

        January 17, 2023 at 4:33 pm

        Polka would be lovely !! Looking forward to it 🙂 Cheers Steve

        Reply
      • AvatarManny says

        March 28, 2023 at 3:44 pm

        Latin would be awesome!

        Reply
  15. AvatarAce Barton says

    February 24, 2023 at 9:43 am

    Interesting test for sure. It seems from most of the comments, I am an outlier here. I’m a rocker; I growl the majority of my notes, and the SHIVA 3 fits my tone like a glove. Not as bright as a Rovner Deep V or Runyon w/spoiler; but nasty, edgy and aggressive enough PLUS it can play more melodic when needed. That versatility is a bonus!

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      February 24, 2023 at 2:30 pm

      Ace, That is totally cool. We are all different and have different tastes. Maybe it is my hearing loss but every time I play a mouthpiece that is super loud and super bright, I feel like I’m taking more months or years off the life of the hearing I have left. I totally understand different sax players liking different sounds and mouthpieces though.

      Reply
  16. AvatarJimmy says

    February 24, 2023 at 2:03 pm

    It has been my contention to judge mouthpieces by the usual points of interests for sure but more important to me than all else was to not to be a mouthpiece player but a sax player. By that I mean a lot of times that I have tried various types of mouthpieces, but found myself worrying about the way I played each mouthpiece in order to make it work rather than just the enjoyment of playing the saxophone without thinking about the mouthpiece. I always enjoy the new posts on your site, Steve and am so grateful for your hard work and expertise!

    Reply
  17. AvatarFrank Zona says

    February 24, 2023 at 10:32 pm

    Great Theo Wanne showdown Steve. I agree with the many comments that you pretty well controlled and dialed in the Neff-tone on each mouthpiece. I’ve played a Gaia 4 for well over a year and it is my “forever” mouthpiece (I hope) so I am sure I’m biased to say that the Gaia 4 stood out for me on this battle round. Big thick yet projecting sound, which is why I love it. But I was impressed by the Ambika as well. Looking forward to hearing the next battle round.

    Reply
  18. AvatarLear says

    July 18, 2024 at 5:43 pm

    Hi Steve, I love your reviews. I’m looking (hoping) to find a piece that’s an all-rounder.
    Will there ever be a Round 2?

    Reply
    • SteveSteve says

      July 18, 2024 at 10:01 pm

      No, unfortunately not. I had some hearing issues that put things on hold and then felt like I was holding on to them for way too long so sent them back to Theo. I wish I could of done more rounds with them…….

      Reply
      • AvatarLear says

        July 18, 2024 at 11:18 pm

        I knew this post was over a year ago. I figured I’d ask anyway. Much appreciated, nonetheless. Thanks for the reply, Steve. Hope your feeling better.

        Reply

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Ron
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Your major diatonic patterns book is great. I”m studying the first twenty patterns (first twenty pages) each day with different articulation each day and slowly increasing the tempo each week or so.  There is a noticeable improvement in finger coordination across all keys and its amazing how much more secure I feel on the difficult keys when attempting to play pieces with 5+ flats/sharps. I’m able to sort out the fingerings for these pieces now much more quickly than before, often in one or two … Read more
Geoff
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Just wanted to send you a quick note to say thank you for being you, your playing, your website and your desire to help others. I’m a professional musician in the US Army and I’ve visited your website almost every day since discovering it a couple of months ago. Your lessons are profound and easy to use. I’ve purchased most of your PDF books and now am starting to delve more into the video and audio lessons.  Thank you for being a great resource!
James
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Hi Steve,

First, I want to thank you for all of your great lessons. They are like a “For Dummies” version of all the books on my shelf. The lessons break things down into manageable pieces, and give me the confidence that I’m practicing the right pieces. I’m starting to make progress.   Thank You,   Kim

Kim
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Thank You Steve. I think that I will be busy for years. Thank You for your great contribution to jazz music. Your books, more than teaching “how to play jazz”, actually teach “how to speak jazz”. I wish I found your methods years ago.  

Jean-Eric
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I’m an experienced player in the pop/soul/funk areas of music and, previously, classical.  Over the decades I’ve been playing, I’ve always felt that I could do what I needed in those styles of music.  However, recently I began to feel limited by my use of the same old licks. When I discovered Steve Neff’s website, and heard the audio examples based on the exercises in his books, I realized they were what I needed.  I purchased all of them and have been working on them since.  It’s very hard work… Read more
Paul
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It is so refreshing to have a great player, who can provide lessons and examples in a manner which is understandable to most any enthusiastic saxophonist who is ready to improve. not just the, do this, do that, memorize this, memorize that… while all that is absolutely necessary, you go on to give reasons and examples to explain and validate why you have to do all of these things, the benefits, if you will… that is the key for me, you tell, explain, demonstrate, explain some more, you give perso… Read more
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