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Ralph Morgan MLL 8* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

April 7, 2010 by Steve 21 Comments

This a Ralph Morgan MLL 8* tenor saxophone mouthpiece.  This use to be a ML model but the owner of the piece sent it to Erik Greiffenhagen to have the chamber made larger so now it is a MLL model.  The tip opening of this mouthpiece is an 8* which for a Morgan is a .105.  With the larger chamber I have to admit that I like this mouthpiece even more than when it was an ML.  It has a big sound and the mouthpiece feels like it is vibrating when I play it.  You would think with the bigger chamber it would be less powerful and darker but it feels more powerful to me.  The bottom range notes are just lush and full sounding with a nice crispness to them.  There seems to be a husky full quality to the notes that I love. The upper range rings nicely and it plays very smoothly and evenly all over the horn.

I wish I could spend more time with this piece but I have to send it back to the owner. This would be a great all round mouthpiece for all styles of music.  I could get pretty darn loud with it.   I think I will have to order one of these………… Let me know what you think. Steve

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Filed Under: Tenor Low Baffle Reviews, Tenor Mouthpiece Reviews Tagged With: Erik Greiffenhagen, Morgan MLL, Ralph Morgan, tenor mouthpiece

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  1. AvatarEric says

    May 3, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Wow! I love that sound. I just emailed Eirk G to ask about having my Morgan 7M opened up in a similar fashion. I’ve never really been happy with the medium chamber. It just sounds too thin to my ears. It’s got good core, but not enough depth – especially in the low end of my horn.

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  2. AvatarZach says

    June 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    i noticed the same thing with my morgan, it sounds great and is really easy to play but compared to a good link it just seems like the sound is not nearly as fat and complex. would getting the chamber enlarged make the sound fatter? ive been thinking about either getting the morgan refaced or saving up some money for an early babbitt hr link.

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    • stevesteve says

      June 28, 2010 at 10:38 pm

      Which Morgan do you have? I don’t really like the M’s that much but prefer the L chambers. The MLL was terrific. Big, fat juicy sound with lots of character.

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  3. Avatarzach says

    June 29, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    i actually have an 8L .100 that i switched to from a 7* .105 otto link hr. the morgan sounds less fat and i guess you could say more focused. could this be a result of the smaller tip opening or is it more likely the size/shape of the chamber?
    apparently the morgan has a more oval shaped chamber, while the links chamber is circular.

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    • stevesteve says

      June 29, 2010 at 7:37 pm

      i think it is both. the smaller tip gives it a more focused and centered sound and the Morgan L does seem slightly smaller in chamber than the Links i have owned.

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  4. AvatarJackLi says

    February 20, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Hi Steve,
    Do you remember how does the Marc Jean Ligature fit on the piece? I’m thinking of getting a lig for the Morgan but it has a slimmer profile so I’m not sure whether I should get a standard size rubber Tenor lig or buy a custom fit one from Marc?
    Thanks,
    Jack

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    • stevesteve says

      February 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      No, sorry I don’t remember. I’m not even sure if I had the Morgan and the Narc Jean at the same time…………

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  5. AvatarJackLi says

    February 21, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Thanks anyway Steve, and your clip above did say you had the Marc Jean but of course this clip was made a while back….

    I do have another quick question though Steve, did you ever play any Morgan Alto mouthpieces?
    Thanks for the great site,
    Jack

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    • stevesteve says

      February 22, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      Oh OK. I must have had the MJ lig then but I don’t remember if I tried it on the Morgan MLL?? Sorry. I don’t think I’ve played a Morgan alto mouthpiece yet. I might of way back but don’t remember specifically. I do vaguelly remember trying an Excaliber and thinking it was way to bright for my alto but that’s all I can remember. I don’t think I tried another one since then. I would like to.

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  6. AvatarRaymond Johnson says

    October 10, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    This is the current piece I play on. I find it very fluid mouthpiece and it is able to blend very well in horn ensembles and with vocalists. Although, I’ve found it to be a little limiting in funk and rock settings where it gets covered up by electric guitar and keys. Thanks for the review and sound clips!

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  7. AvatarDenis says

    July 19, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    it is better to 9M or 9ML ?

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    • stevesteve says

      July 19, 2012 at 4:58 pm

      Denis, I like the ML much more than the M model. It has a bigger thicker sound to my ears.

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  8. AvatarDenis says

    July 20, 2012 at 2:36 am

    thank you for help, Steve

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  9. AvatarDenis says

    July 26, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    hello, Steve. tell me please what to pay my attention, what is better?
    RPC 115B Tenor
    Theo Wanne – Brahma 9 HR Tenor
    Morga 9ML
    thank you for help

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    • stevesteve says

      August 3, 2012 at 11:30 am

      I can’t say which of these is better for you as they all have different sounds and play different. All 3 are great mouthpieces. You have to try them for yourself to decide which one you like the best.

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  10. AvatarAustin Zhang says

    January 13, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Could you compare this and the Bunte TM42?

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    • stevesteve says

      January 18, 2013 at 9:44 am

      It would be hard to compare these two mouthpieces just because it has been so long since I played both of them. They were both easy to play. I remember the Morgan had a bigger more spread sound to it. The TM42 had more of a direct focused sound.

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  11. AvatarSon o' Sonny says

    August 28, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Just to make sure I understand your post from 6-29-2010… you say that the Morgan L (the largest-chambered Morgan) seems slightly smaller in chamber than the Links you’ve owned? And thinner (less “fat”) sound as well?

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    • stevesteve says

      September 7, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      Yes, that is how I feel about the Morgans in general. I do think the MLL had a chamber that was enlarged so I got a bigger fatter sound out of it. The MLL is larger than a Morgan L from what I remember although it has been a long time so you might want to check with the mouthpiece guys to confirm this……….

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  12. AvatarPhil says

    September 29, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    Say – Looks like Morgan has updated their line, any new reviews in the pipeline? The’ve got the “Excalibur”, and the “Jazz” and the “Vintage”…

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    • SteveSteve says

      October 7, 2016 at 11:11 am

      Phil, Actually, Junkdude just contacted me about reviewing some Morgan pieces. I think they are sending an Excaliber alto mouthpiece for me to review. Last time I tried one was in the early 2000-2003 range I think so I am excited about trying one again. Back in the day these Morgan pieces had quite the “buzz” about them. Steve

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