{"id":46330,"date":"2017-09-26T17:11:32","date_gmt":"2017-09-26T21:11:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.neffmusic.com\/blog\/?p=46330"},"modified":"2022-11-16T15:18:17","modified_gmt":"2022-11-16T20:18:17","slug":"retro-revival-super-d-new-york-tenor-saxophone-mouthpiece-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.neffmusic.com\/blog\/2017\/09\/retro-revival-super-d-new-york-tenor-saxophone-mouthpiece-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Review"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Today, I am reviewing the new Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York model tenor saxophone mouthpiece made by Joel Peskin (iReedMan) and Bob Sheppard. Joel and Bob have started a company called Retro Revival in which they produce exact copies of great vintage mouthpieces from the past.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">When Joel started the company they started with two mouthpieces. \u00a0The New Yorker alto mouthpiece which is an exact copy of a New York Meyer Bros mouthpiece (that I reviewed last year) and the other was a metal tenor mouthpiece called the &#8220;Super D&#8221; ,that is a copy of a great double ring Otto Link tenor mouthpiece, which I am reviewing today.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">If you take a look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/retro-revival.com\/\">Retro Revival site<\/a> today you can see that they have been busy in the last year. There are now seven mouthpiece models listed including a Slant Link replica called the &#8220;Tru-Slant&#8221;, a Selmer Soloist short shank replica for tenor and soprano sax called the &#8220;Shorty&#8221; and a 1950&#8217;2 Duckbill Berg Larsen replica called the &#8220;UK Special. (Looks like I have some more mouthpieces to review in the future!)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYTop2.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYTop2.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">For any of you that peruse Ebay regularly, you probably know that finding an original Otto Link Double Ring tenor sax mouthpiece in good condition can be a costly endeavor. \u00a0These saxophone mouthpieces can cost in the ballpark of 1200-2500 dollars depending on what condition it is in. \u00a0I think we would all be thankful if someone came up with a less costly alternative where we could get a mouthpiece of the same quality and playability for quite a bit less money. \u00a0The\u00a0aim of these\u00a0Retro Revival mouthpieces is just that!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYTable.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYTable.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Joel was kind enough to send me two 7* Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; tenor mouthpieces to review. \u00a0One is the NY (New York) model which I am reviewing today which is gold plated. \u00a0The other is the FL (Florida) model which I will review next and is silver. \u00a0The NY is the darker model and the FL is the brighter model. \u00a0 \u00a0The mouthpieces came in a strong cardboard cylinder to protect them while shipping. \u00a0A Rico &#8220;H&#8221; ligature and mouthpiece cap were included.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Upon inspection, the &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York tenor mouthpiece is stunning to look at. \u00a0The outside design is very similar to a metal Otto Link with a ridge on top that has &#8220;Retro Revival&#8221; engraved on it. \u00a0The &#8220;Super D&#8221; model also comes with the &#8220;double rings&#8221; around the shank just like the original Otto Link &#8220;Double Ring&#8221; Super Tone Masters did. \u00a0The gold plating looks flawless. The table, rails and tip look beautiful. The baffle proceeds from the tip at a higher angle and then about a 1\/2 an inch in rolls over into a sharper angle that declines into the large chamber where it terminates at the rear of the chamber smooth and evenly. \u00a0The inner side rails are scooped out as they head towards the chamber and then look to flare out more when they enter the chamber. These are faced by master mouthpiece craftsman Eric Falcon so I expect nothing less than perfection as far as the facing curve, baffle and chamber are concerned.<\/p>\n<p>One of my favorite mouthpieces in my collection is an Otto Link &#8220;Double Ring&#8221; Super Tone Master that Brian Powell had refaced before I acquired it. \u00a0I did a review of that mouthpiece a few years ago if you want to check it out. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.neffmusic.com\/blog\/2013\/07\/florida-double-ring-otto-link-tenor-saxophone-mouthpiece\/\">Otto Link Double Ring Review<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0 Since I really love how that mouthpiece plays and sounds for me I was very interested in trying these Retro Revival replicas as well.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYBaffle.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYBaffle.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Here&#8217;s a quote from the\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/retro-revival.com\/products\/super-d\">Retro Revival website<\/a> about the &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York tenor saxophone mouthpiece:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Our &#8220;Super D&#8221; Tenor Sax model is a stunning replica of an early 1950\u2019s Otto Link \u201cDouble Band \u201d Super Tone Master, once played by Eddie &#8220;Lockjaw&#8221; Davis, Johnny Griffin, Dex, Michael Brecker and many others back in the day. This rare gem had a short production run, Otto Link changed to a higher baffle profile from the previous tubby \u201cTone Master\u201d to produce the so called \u201cDouble Ring\u201d model. This newer design produced the classic modern \u201cLink\u201d sound, characterized by a brighter top end and faster response, but still maintaining a rich mid and low range due to it\u2019s slightly deeper chamber.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Of all the \u201cLink\u201d models, we feel the \u201cDouble Ring\u201d vintage has the superior tonal characteristics of all the Otto Link metals. From our own collection we chose untouched examples to replicate and produce the elusive missing \u201cLink\u201d we\u2019ve all searched for.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0The \u201cSuper D&#8221;, is brilliant, full bodied and packs a punch. It screams in the altissimo, plays the softest sub-tones with ease and articulates fast at any dynamic. Very flexible, this mouthpiece lends itself to any stylistic approach. Every aspect of our \u201cSuper D&#8221; has been meticulously duplicated from our own perfectly mint Florida as well as the darker New York original \u201cDouble Ring&#8221;. Available with tip openings from a 6* to 8*, the Florida and New York &#8220;Super Retro&#8221; have the same chamber design, the only difference being the baffle profile. The lower baffle New York version is gold plated, very balanced, centered with plenty of projection. The Florida version is Rhodium plated with a higher baffle for players wanting a bit more zing. We believe the tonal characteristics and response of both these classic designs will impress any serious player.<\/em> <strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0Finding an original \u201cDouble Ring\u201d is almost impossible. On occasion you may spot one on eBay from $1,200.00 to $2,000.00, and most often compromised by inferior refacing\u2019s and very small tip openings. Using advanced CAD technology, it is now possible to duplicate a rare gem like the \u201cDouble Ring\u201d. Replicating a 60 year old mouthpiece is a painstaking process of love and appreciation for the quality of the past. Retro Revival is extremely fortunate that master mouthpiece craftsman Eric Falcon has agreed to help us in our quest. His skill, experience and knowledge as an accomplished saxophonist himself, and a true connoisseur of vintage mouthpiece design, is the determining factor in our \u201cRetro Revival\u201d replica concept.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>With caring precision, the process of replication starts with hand drawings, precisely measuring every parameter, translating these numbers into computer code to produce 3D images, then CNC milled in one piece from the highest quality bar brass. Eric then hand faces, assembles the bite plates, and most importantly play tests every mouthpiece before polishing.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0At Retro Revival, our cumulative life experience as top professionals in the LA studio\u2019s and concert stages around the globe has informed our passion for great equipment. Having practical insight into the variables and complexities of mouthpiece set ups has been a constant learning process. Even from a young age, searching, comparing and experimenting with mouthpieces, reeds and ligatures, trying to emulate the beautiful sounds of our hero&#8217;s on the records, this fascination with personal sound production and approach still continues. Informed by the demands of the gig and always paying close attention to great players with beautiful tone, Retro Revival is a natural extension to our musical path\u2019s. There is a good reason why the greatest Legends of jazz and contemporary music played Links, Meyers, Bergs, etc.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It is our intention to earn your trust by offering the real deal. No hype, exaggerated claims and cliche sales gimmickry. Our intended goal is to offer affordable vintage replica mouthpieces that we would actually use and love to play ! \u00a0To our highest standards, we are committed to play testing every mouthpiece, and with great pride, we are confident that sax players from every age and level of experience will feel and hear the special qualities of our \u201cSuper D&#8221; Tenor, the \u201cNew Yorker\u201d Alto, and other classic Retro Revival replica\u2019s soon to come.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYBaffle2.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYBaffle2.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I have had the two Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; mouthpieces for about 4 weeks now and had a chance to do a lot of playing on both of them. \u00a0I can honestly say that the Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; NY sound clip was one of the hardest for me to trim down. \u00a0The problem was that I recorded for 19 minutes and then had to trim that down to a 3-4 minute sound clip (because who wants to listen to a 19 minutes mouthpiece clip, right?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.). \u00a0The problem was that I loved just about everything on that 19 minute clip! \u00a0I was digging the sound so much when listening back that it was hard for me to choose what parts to cut and which to keep. I persevered and finally whittled it down to 4 minutes thankfully.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The baffle on the &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York looks high enough that I thought it would be brighter than it was. \u00a0I found the tone to be quite similar to my &#8220;double ring&#8221; that I own. \u00a0The tone of that mouthpiece has a &#8220;hallow&#8221; quality in the mid-range that I also hear in this &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York model. \u00a0 I&#8217;m not even sure what that means exactly or what I am hearing but that is the word that comes to mind (Sorry I can&#8217;t be more specific&#8230;&#8230;I notice this quality the most on middle C# if that helps&#8230;&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I used an Ishimori \u00a0Woodstone 3 reed on the sound clip below that was about as perfect a match as I could ask for. \u00a0I would classify the tone as being in the middle of the dark to bright tone spectrum but could lean either way when pushed in that direction.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The tone sounds thick and full of character to me. \u00a0It&#8217;s hard for me to describe but when I listened to the recording there is just something about the tone that I found really attractive to my ears. \u00a0It is very even and smooth throughout the range of the horn and fun to play fast lines on.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYBaffle4.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYBaffle4.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">When played with more air the New York model mouthpiece can get brighter and sounds great in the altissimo. When playing &#8220;bluesy&#8221; or &#8220;R&amp;B&#8221; type lines, it is easier to go brighter and add inflections to the notes for those styles. \u00a0The tone can be easily manipulated and molded by the player.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">In general, I have not been a fan of playing metal Otto Link tenor mouthpieces on GB gigs up here in the Northeast. \u00a0GB stands for &#8220;General Business&#8221; and usually means the night will be ending with some kind of really loud dance music. \u00a0When I have tried to play Links on these types of gigs in the past, I am usually fine for the first set but by the last set I am toast. \u00a0I can&#8217;t hear myself at all and am usually blowing my brains out to try to hear what I am playing over the band. \u00a0For that reason, I haven&#8217;t taken an unmodified Link to one of these gigs in many years.<\/p>\n<p>All this being said, the Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; mouthpieces have enough power and zing that I would consider trying them on one of these gigs again. \u00a0Yes, they are based off of that &#8220;classic&#8221; Otto Link design but I think that hefty baffle in the first half inch of the mouthpiece gives enough &#8220;Umph&#8221; to get you heard in those louder situations.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYCham2.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYCham2.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I plan on doing a review of the Florida &#8220;Super D&#8221; later this week but I know many of you will be anxious to hear my thoughts on how the New York and Florida models compare. \u00a0The New York model is darker and slightly fatter sounding to my ears. \u00a0The Florida model is a definitely brighter. \u00a0In fact, the Florida reminded me quite a bit of \u00a0my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.neffmusic.com\/blog\/2009\/08\/jon-van-wie-stm-link-8-tenor-mouthpiece\/\">Jon Van Wie modified Otto Link<\/a> that I love so much. \u00a0That&#8217;s the mouthpiece I had been playing on all the GB gigs I had been playing on years ago because I felt like it gave me the power and &#8220;highs&#8221; in the sound to cut through a loud band mix. \u00a0I would consider the Retro Revival Florida model to be in a similar category as that mouthpiece. \u00a0Lots of power and brightness with a focused core to the sound. The New York model can get loud and brighter also but the Florida just gives you more of those two qualities. \u00a0Which one to choose is really up to you and how dark or bright you want to be&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.You can check out the Retro Revival Florida review when it is posted for more details and to compare these two great mouthpieces to each other.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYCham.JPG\" rel=\"shadowbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYCham.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York tenor saxophone mouthpiece is a great playing mouthpiece! \u00a0In my opinion, it is one of the best Otto Link type tenor mouthpieces I have played over all these years. If you read this review, listen to the clips and decide the &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York tenor mouthpiece is worth a try, you can purchase one on the <a href=\"https:\/\/retro-revival.com\/products\/super-d\">Retro Revival website<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Congratulations to Joel Peskin, Bob Sheppard and Eric Falcon for making an\u00a0excellent well crafted mouthpiece reminiscent of a great vintage Otto Link Double Ring tone master tenor saxophone mouthpiece! \u00a0Great Job!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Let me know your thoughts in the comments below and if you get a Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York tenor saxophone mouthpiece be sure to come back and let us know what you think below&#8230;&#8230;..Thanks!!<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-46330-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYWood3Clip.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYWood3Clip.mp3\">https:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2017\/RRNYWood3Clip.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding: 12px; background-color: #f0b646; line-height: 1.4;\">Disclosure: I did not receive any compensation or products at the time this review was written. I borrowed this mouthpiece from Joel at Retro Revival who was kind enough to let me try it for a few days. After the review was finished, I decided to buy the &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York model. Joel was kind enough to let me but it at a discounted rate. Regardless, I only review mouthpieces and other saxophone related products that I\u00a0enjoy and believe will be a good choice for other saxophone players to try also. \u00a0 \u00a0Steve Neff<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today, I am reviewing the new Retro Revival &#8220;Super D&#8221; New York model tenor saxophone mouthpiece made by Joel Peskin (iReedMan) and Bob Sheppard. Joel and Bob have started a company called Retro Revival in which they produce exact copies of great vintage mouthpieces from the past. 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