{"id":101449,"date":"2020-11-13T17:16:39","date_gmt":"2020-11-13T22:16:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.neffmusic.com\/blog\/?p=101449"},"modified":"2022-11-15T15:03:57","modified_gmt":"2022-11-15T20:03:57","slug":"phil-tone-orion-tenor-saxophone-mouthpiece-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.neffmusic.com\/blog\/2020\/11\/phil-tone-orion-tenor-saxophone-mouthpiece-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Phil-Tone Orion Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Review"},"content":{"rendered":"

Today I am reviewing another great tenor saxophone mouthpiece made by Phil Engleman at Phil-Tone mouthpieces.<\/a> \u00a0I have reviewed quite a few Phil-Tone sax mouthpieces on the site<\/a> already and am always interested when Phil announces a new Phil-Tone saxophone mouthpiece model.<\/p>\n

A couple of months ago he announced that he had a new tenor sax mouthpiece model called the Orion model that was based off of the old Brilhart\u00a0 tenor saxophone mouthpieces like the one Gene Ammons used to play.\u00a0 I have always loved Gene Ammons’ tenor sax sound so I was immediately interested in trying out this Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n

Here’s a quote from Phil about the new Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece from his website:<\/p>\n

The Phil-Tone Orion Alto and Tenor Mouthpiece: These mouthpieces are inspired by the early Brilly pieces played by Charlie Parker and Gene Ammons. They are handmade and play tested mouthpieces like all Phil-Tone mouthpieces. In addition they are professional level precision mouthpieces offered at a price resembling out of the box factory made mouthpieces. Machines don’t make music! Try the Phil-Tone Orion today. Sold only direct through Phil-Tone. -Phil Engleman\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

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Gene Ammons (on right) with a Brilhart Tenor Sax Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Phil-Tone Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece I received to review is made of resin. The look and feel of the outside of the mouthpiece resembles hard rubber in my opinion.\u00a0 I actually wasn’t sure if it was hard rubber or resin and had to email Phil to ask him what it was made of.\u00a0 The clue for me that it was perhaps resin, was that the inside bore of the mouthpiece was super shiny.\u00a0 I have never seen a hard rubber mouthpiece with a chamber and bore that shiny before so guessed that it was a resin material.\u00a0 Phil confirmed this for me via email.<\/p>\n

The exterior of the Orion tenor sax mouthpiece is pretty plain looking. \u00a0There is no engraving on it except “Phil-Tone” hand engraved on the top of the body of the mouthpiece.\u00a0 \u00a0The mouthpiece is a .105 tip opening or a 7* tip opening.\u00a0 It’s diameter is a standard hard rubber tenor mouthpiece diameter and I used a generic metal tenor sax ligature on it.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Orion mouthpiece tip rail is very close in shape to all of my tenor sax reeds and the table and rails look even and well made as they are on all of the Phil-Tone mouthpieces I have reviewed to date.<\/p>\n

The baffle has a nice rollover to it and then the baffle heads down at a curve into the chamber area.\u00a0 After the baffle rolls over, the descending slope of the baffle looks to have a side to side curve to it where the outside edges are a little higher than the center. The sidewalls are straight and look to angle inward slightly as they approach the chamber area. I would consider the baffle to be a low to medium low baffle just because the rollover happens pretty quickly.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece (with my dog Lily in the background)<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Phil-Tone Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece has a unique shaped chamber that I am told is the same as the old Brilhart tenor saxophone mouthpiece chambers.\u00a0 The straight sidewalls give the chamber sides a straight edge and the bottom of the chamber looks slightly lower and wider than the top of the chamber.\u00a0 Like I mentioned above, the inside of the chamber and bore are incredibly shiny and smooth looking.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Phil-Tone Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece seemed to want a harder saxophone reed than I usually play on 7* tenor sax mouthpieces.\u00a0 Usually I can get by with a 2 1\/2 Strong or 3 Light Rigotti Gold saxophone reed on a 7* mouthpiece but the Phil-Tone Orion made these reeds feel too soft for me especially in the upper register.\u00a0 I tried using Rigotti Gold 3 Medium, 3 Strong and even 3 1\/2 Lights and these saxophone reeds played much better for me on the Orion tenor sax mouthpiece.\u00a0 I ended up recording the sound clip with a Rigotti Gold 3 Medium saxophone reed.<\/p>\n

The beak of the Phil-Tone Orion tenor mouthpiece looked and felt higher to me than my other hard rubber tenor sax mouthpieces I have in my collection.\u00a0 I compared it visually to a couple hard rubber Otto Link mouthpieces I have and it does look and feel higher than a typical hard rubber Otto Link beak to my eyes.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n

The .105 tip opening felt very comfortable to me and the mouthpiece had an overtone rich tone that is thick and full sounding in my opinion. The tone leans to the darker side of a tenor saxophone tone in my opinion.\u00a0 The low notes are lush and thick sounding with lots of character.\u00a0 The high notes are also full and round sounding.<\/p>\n

I have to admit that I really enjoyed playing the Phil-Tone Orion tenor sax mouthpiece.\u00a0 I am listening back to the sound clips even as I type these thoughts, and I think the Orion has a unique tone and richness of character that makes it a joy to play as well as listen to in my mind.<\/p>\n

Like the Orion alto sax mouthpiece, the Orion tenor sax mouthpiece seemed to have a lightness of tone to me.\u00a0 I am not sure why I get that impression but I just feel like the tone is more light sounding than heavy sounding to my ears.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece Chamber<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Phil-Tone Orion’s chamber and straight sidewalls seems to give it a rich focus of tone that isn’t as spread sounding as some hard rubber Otto Links I have played throughout the years.\u00a0 My experience has been that the added focus in a sax tone can really add to the definition of the sound when played in a big room or into a microphone.<\/p>\n

The Orion tenor sax mouthpiece played smoothly and evenly throughout the range of the horn and the intonation was excellent.\u00a0 The articulation was clean and efficient also.<\/p>\n

I would say the Orion tenor sax mouthpiece was similar in volume to the Orion alto sax mouthpiece in that I would rate at about a 7 if I was to rate it 1-10 as far as volume. It does get a little brighter when really pushed but, as you can hear in the sound clips, I tended to lay back a bit and stick to jazz lines and melodies. I did play my usually Moose the Mooche and Donna Lee melodies so you can hear how the Orion might compare to my other tenor mouthpiece clips.<\/p>\n

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Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece<\/strong><\/p>\n

As is my habit, I have included a sound clip below of the Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece recorded dry with no effects, as well as the same sound clip with reverb added so you can hear how it might sound with reverb.<\/p>\n

Phil has told me that he has created the Phil-Tone Orion to be a great playing tenor saxophone mouthpiece at a great price.\u00a0 I would have no reservations in suggesting this mouthpiece to a tenor sax student, whether young or old, who was looking to step up to a more professional mouthpiece.\u00a0 In the past, I have suggested Otto Link mouthpieces for tenor sax students but the Orion is in that same price range while giving the student a different direction and unique sound in my opinion.<\/p>\n

If you like the clips below and the Phil-Tone Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece interests you, contact Phil Engleman via his website at Phil-tone.com<\/a>. \u00a0 Phil is very knowledgeable about sax mouthpieces and will answer any questions you might have about the Orion or any of his other mouthpiece models. \u00a0Thanks for letting me try the Orion tenor saxophone mouthpiece Phil!<\/p>\nhttps:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2020\/PTOrionTenor2.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n

Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece-Rigotti Gold 3 Medium Reed-No Effects Added<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\nhttps:\/\/cdn.neffmusic.com\/2020\/PTOrionTenorRev2.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n

Phil-Tone Orion 7* Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece-Rigotti Gold 3 Medium Reed-Reverb Added<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Disclosure: I received the sample mouthpiece reviewed above for free in the hope that I would try it and perhaps review it on my blog. Regardless, I only review sax mouthpieces that I enjoy playing and believe will be good for other saxophone players to try also. Steve<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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